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CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:58:00 -
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golem or rni are alot better than rattler in every situation. that sentry / drone stuff is only cool story...
while rattler looks cool and tanks like brick, it's still tedious
by the time you have killed 2-3 battleships @100km with golem, your rattler is starting to get in lock/engage range.... |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:58:00 -
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Golem and that is it.
you can think of whatever you want.. in the end it's golem for now. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.18 05:02:00 -
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Yes... if you havent "driven" golem you really do not know what you are missing.
1. 112km lock range. (to that range you apply max dps 1050ish + drones, crusies actually fly 166km) 2. 4 launcers, 100% bonus damage (economical :D ) 3. tractors/salvagers 4. tp bonus 5. can tank like "I dont give a ****" 6. can fit mwd or ab without nerfing dmg apply or tank that much. 7. can be aligned while you enter mission, you can warp out asap if mission triggers go down or there is threat to be ganked. (remember 112km lock range? )
also if you keep hardeners on all the time and you do not autopilot to gates then there is almost no chance that anyone could gank you. Just dont do missions next to jita or any other trading hub, simple as that. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.18 12:09:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Golem also does not do 1050 DPS at lock range.
golem can do 1066 DPS to max lock range and thats an a fact.
There is no reason to blaaablaaa bla about it. There is no better more lazy mode lvl4 mission ship than Golem and thats an a FACT also!
btw no one uses sentrys with golem, It's hobgoblins + salvage drones.
Even if you fit it totally cheap T2 stuff, you still do missions faster and more conviniently than any other ship out there. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:01:00 -
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why would you not use them? |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.18 13:28:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:? CanI haveyourstuff wrote:why would you not use them? Because unless you're bad, you don't use them all the time.
dafuq why?
what do you mean by bad? why do you write that **** and never back up your words?
I can also say "you only use t1 cruises if you are not bad" what does it even mean? |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:26:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:If you're taking 30 seconds to kill an NPC battleship I think I'll stick with my domi.
And you're bad if you use furies for every target because they don't apply full damage for anything bigger than a cruiser.
Target painters also don't apply all the time past 45km (10 seconds of a wasted cycle)
ofcourse I'm not going to shoot spider drone with fury, what the hell dude? :D
Anyway.. by the time I need to switch ammo, my haubgaublins have already killed anything smaller than cruisers... makes sence?
Please do show me proof or video or whatever how do you kill NPC battleship in less than 30 seconds with dominix when that target is 100km away.
TP's - I dont even need more than that because when all BS-es are dead, all crusiers are already at 45ish distance or closer so... your point is again invalid. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 09:58:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Yeah I somehow doubt your 5 unbonused hobs will do much damage in the grand scheme of things and wont solo much before you're done with the battleships with your missiles.
When I mission, I kill the small stuff first and the bigger stuff is still 70km+ off because the domi is just that good.
I can't show you a video but I think anyone who knows anything about missioning is going to laugh if at you if you think 30 seconds to kill bs rat is good (at any range).
5 hobgob tech2 -s kill small frigates/destroyers so fast that I rarely need to switch ammo, honestly.
yes you kill small stuff in domi first because it's how you do it with gunboats and sentrys anyway... low transversal means targets go *pop*
but in golem you kill BS-es long range or whatever at what range inside 112km radius while hobgoblins kill all small stuff AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!!!!!
this is just the most effective mission running there can be.. I'm here in eve since 2005 and believe me I've done everything here and tryed too many different ships and setups to even remember.
Only Mach can compete!
and clearly you are ignorant, refusing to understand what I even type.. maybe you dont even read at all? can you?
lauging who? at what? 30 sec npc kill.. well please DO SHOW me ship that can kill NPC BS in under 30 seconds FROM ETNERING POCKET, COMING OUT OF WARP.. BANG.. 112km range BS dead under 30 seconds! PROVE IT.
do I need to write more in caps? can you now read? |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 10:17:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:You've clearly not done any missioning since retribution was released, if you send hobs that far out on an unbonused ship you're almost guaranteed to either lose a couple or have to pull them back constantly.
And you never said anything about entering pocket, coming out of warp etc before, but the domi still could do it faster since it doesnt have the scan resolution of a mole.
god damn man, whats wrong with you.. :D
even IF i have to pull drones in.. no worryes, they come in.. I push them out again - offfff they go @ smalls. BECAUSE golem can lock up to 10 targets.. I can easily manage everything I attack.
MEANWHILE <- THIS is key word sir. MEANWHILE my fury cruises smash down BS/bc/cruiser targets at whatever range they are. Mostly all missions are ok.
Nowthen, that scan str... you can take RNI anyday and lock targets faster.. why not.. but is that 1-2 seconds so needed? I dunno.. I dont need that.
"noone is talking about entering pocked.. yadu yadu yadu yaa.." well why the **** do you think I talk about max lock range? and applying dps in that radious?
TO shoot target 10km away from me? jebus.. you make baby jesus cry man
oh and now there is the ending: I can schoose whatever damage type I want with RNI or Golem.. can you do it with dominix? I reallllllllllly doupt that. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 10:24:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:@stoic 4 painters is nice in theory but again you're missing the point that they have a 45km optimal (thats with perfect painting skills) plus you have to actually MANAGE those 4 painters on targets and with marauders and their horrible scan res you're spending a lot of time actually targeting, retargeting, painting and then shooting. Some time is lost in all that micro.
I'm not stoic but still... you talk about managing while sitting in dominix? seriously?
Do you even have clue how lazy ass mission runner RNI or Golem are? 
micromanagement with dominix is out of roof compared to missile boat. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 11:05:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:1 .Good, now you've wasted 10+ seconds recalling and sending them back out again. Tell me again how this is efficient? 2. I never disputed that, but good luck hitting cruiser targets with furies and expecting decent damage. 3. You can't shoot what you haven't locked, on my dominix a lot of times I'm actually limited by my locking speed since I blow things up so fast. Maybe it's ok on a golem because you kill a lot slower. 4. Either way a domi will take a battleship out in under 30 seconds. 5. I target things and press f and 1 to shoot, you have to manage 4(?) painters on specific targets (you won't paint battleships for example) and have to pick targets from your overview to kill. I can just target what's closest and press 2 buttons. 6. No, but they do between 750 and 850 DPS depending on what drones I'm using and have a chance at critical (wrecking) hits. 7. Wrong, if you send your lights out to frigates and the frigates are not in range to shoot you, they will switch to your drones.
1. I'm not wasting anything by the time I need to change ammo there might be 1 small flying around and usually I cba to even care... I can wait that 30 more seconds too if need. But thats not the point - overall mission completion time is fastest possible anyway.
Point is, meanwhile I micromanage (play strategy game) with my drones I can kill everything else.
2. Hitting cruiser targets with furies? well learn this now: most cruisers have signature radius 250+ and with that one little TP I apply almost all damage. I dont even get it why do you bring it up to discussion.. it's totally unnecessary. They die so fast it's not even worth mentioning.
3. I can shoot what I have locked, I can lock 10 targets!!!!! I dont have to lock up all BS-es all the time.. I can easily keep 3 BS-es locked and lock 4-th when nr 1 or 2 is going *pop* by the time I kill that nr 3.. lock time is enough to lockup 2-3 more new targets - whtever they be. Marauder sensor str aint that bad too now... comon.
4. Either way RNI or GOLEM take down BS in 25 seconds... If you tell me that you kill BS target faster with dominix with 850 dps of which 20% you waste damage because of damage type - it's just plain lie.
you cant tell us that 850 dps dominix can kill BS faster than RNI or Golem that does 1050ish dps and applys all of it - it's just like saing 1+1=3
5. why would it be so hard to press two buttons at the same time.. F1 and F2..3..4.. not hard imo. And remember that you do not need to paint anything bigger than cruiser. I really dont see the problem here.
6. well cool story bro but while you micromanage your different drones, sentrys... I just shoot targets while small drones do other work.
7. you still cannot comprehend that those frigates will be in range so fast that it doesnt matter? I can shoot BS in group where are those firagets too.. they burn to my drone range, they agro me.. I send drones and I dont care about them anymore.
Even If I cba micromanage with my drones, I just one ot two show any frigate at 112km range.. which you cannot do with domi. First you need to get in range, REMEMBER? max skilled domi has 87km lock range!!!!!!!!!!!111111111
good luck doing damage to 100km target in mission where you have to travel to gate also.
You just cannot argue against it.... |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 12:02:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine
RNI, GOLEM, MACH, NM win at missions.. thats an a fact.
You use your domi and do whatever the **** you want, srsly 
btw no one is going to fit 3 sentrys on golem or rni just BECAUSE to blap couple of frigs... everyone uses small fast drones + salvage drones. IT's what ppl use.. deal with it. with 3 sentrys you'll not have enough room for other drones.
Sentry aint better. Period!
I have perfect rattler drone missile dominix whatever the fck you want ship skills and I have used them all.
In incursions I use vindicator... mach or NM because they are BEST AT IT. In lvl4-s RNI GOLEM NM MACH... because they are BEST AT IT.
end of god damn story. It's been proven 10000000000000000000000 times already in past years and now even after odyssey.
I cba to argue with you anymore |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 12:25:00 -
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NOW go make video how you own RNI GOLEM NM MACH @ missioning with your dominix.
OR GTFO! simple as that |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 12:27:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:CanI haveyourstuff wrote:NOW go make video how you own RNI GOLEM NM MACH @ missioning with your dominix. OR GTFO!  simple as that no u
I dont have to do it.. go look random youtube video how RNI NM MACH GOLEM do it...
So.... U!!!!!!!!!!!
also would be epic to hear about what's better in incursions than vindi nm mach :P plz |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 12:34:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:I've seen all those videos and my domi does it better, you're posting on an alt and all your arguments are terrible. You have no credibility so the one who needs to prove themselves is you.
no u
you say your domi does it all better than all those cookie cutter fotm mission runners go ahead prove yourself to us... no sane person posts on their real char in eve public forums.. you are obviously newbie around here 
also If Tsukino Stareine is your main char then gtfo really and experience eve a bit more before you come back  |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 12:39:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Plenty of people post on their mains, sane or not .I think people who post on alts have nothing of worth to say since you do it to protect your credibility if you say something idiotic.
start to record video already damit.. dont waste time here blablabla... like politician.. go away and make that epic dominix video happen already.
if you dont do it then all you have said does not have any backup and your just stupid whiny kid  |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 12:50:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:nothing you said has any value anyway, i dont need to prove anything.
There there... I know it hurts 
please do that video, please... look how I beg you. I want to be as good as you! Teach me to eve and dominix, plz |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 13:16:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:so you have no rebuttals for any of my points so you just revert to trolling =/
well I can't say I didn't expect anything else.
comon man.. I just cant take you seriously because what you defend here is just wrong
I'm not saying that dominix is bad or anything but it aint best for sure... or is it?
go ahead and prove everyone that dominix is new fotm mission boat that does every mission faster, easier than any other ship... for ex golem rni mach nm
show me how are you doing worlds collide faster than rni (most widely used mission boat in whole eve) |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 13:32:00 -
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I clearly understand that but OP is asking the best ship...
and the best ships currently for lvl4-s are expensive 2 missile boats 1 lazor boar 1 pew once in a month gunboat.
they are best by the means of:
1. tank 2. lazyness 3. complete missions fast |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.19 22:44:00 -
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all in all and in the end of the day: rni golem mach nm just own missions.
it is just that simple, you can MJD yourself from caldari state to eve gate if you will - it just sucks.
there is nothing faster or better than entering pocket tanking like "I DONT GIVE A ****" and mission done...
dominix+mjd itself takse 10+ seconds time in beginning of mission ++ that more thousand seconds of micromanage and slowboat, call in sentrys etc or wait npc to get in range time... oh man.
just skill some 700 ish dps t1 rni and try it out... it will be better than your dominig, i promise.
also... ppl like to do lvl4-s.. incursions take time, you have to get in fleet etc.. if you are in one, it's not polite to leave as you will.. you'll be there at least 4-5+ sites, which takes time. joining and leaving only gets you into shitlist for FC-s etc. therefore many people like to do lvl4-s instead.
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CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:22:00 -
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Zor'katar wrote:Evei Shard wrote:Fortunately it takes longer than 8 seconds for the frigates to decide to scramble, otherwise the MJD would be useless in that situation. As far as I know, no NPCs actually use scrams... just disruptors. You'll still be able to use the MJD even if they catch you.
+1
dem NPC dont know how to fit properly :D
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CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.21 06:47:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Mer88 wrote:ATM Cruise Navy raven is the best But ultimately I believe Golem is the best if you can fly it. It does everything raven can do but better in most ways.
Not better than TFI in every way for certain.
Since you do not back up your statement, it doesnt count. Might aswell delete your post... |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.21 07:25:00 -
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Sandy Achasse wrote:What caused the price spike in Dominixs lately? I was getting ready to graduate to level 4 missions and I was looking at getting one of those but the price has jumped from ~$110m to $150 over the past 2 weeks
problably little buff it got and all that lobby work from our fellow "domi is best at everything" guise.. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.21 21:32:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Quote:Since you do not back up your statement, it doesnt count. Other than the multiple fits in this thread already posted for those of us following the story at home. When nothing spawns at more than 90km, range beyond 90km is not an advantage. When the mission requires a 500DPS tank, tank beyond 500DPS is not an advantage. A couple of key things to remember when comparing fits on paper.
you stil do not prove anything about how TFI kills stuff faster........... oh wait.. you cant?
TFI dps looks only good on paper, and thats it... ok, gotta give you that, TFI can clear worlds collide and dmasel in distress faster than RNI/Golem
BUT then theres that vindi you know... which says gtfo with your TFI. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.22 05:57:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Have you tried both?
8000 alpha is nice on Battleships. On everything but battleships its overkill and wasting time. TFI has split damage so there is no need to overkill the smaller targets. TFI has as much Alpha as RNI if you count 2 volleys of drones and 1 of CM (8seconds) vs 1 volley of CM only (8seconds).
I dont care if people agree or disagree, but asking me to rehash things already presented in the thread every post is annoying as ****.
The golem and the RNI are not the same ship, tho golem is much faster. I can beat the RNI in my RS, TFI, and Mach 9 times out of 10. I can only beat the golem with the Mach Vs angels on the regular. Apples oranges with strawman to boot.
Great now we are getting somewhere... TFI and RNI/Golem perform almost same if you need to travel gates, BUT TFI tanks less and has less range - there are enough missions which have 100+ km targets and gate travels which are pita with TFI.
If you set up TFI for max missile damage (max lazyness) then you lose drone damage alot.. if you fit it up max gank then you lose alot mobility.
also good tank allows player to slack... lvl4's aint something that cool to be on toes all the time, it gets tiresome and boring instantly.
I'd rather tank so much that I dont even care if I hit all triggers.. it's just easymode and you cant beat that. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:17:00 -
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ExcalibursTemplar wrote:I'm disputing what you're saying but could you please explain why the Golem is so much faster than the CNR ?
Im no him but I can tell you anyway.. because of 112km lock range, good tank and can fit MWD or AB without nerfing dps apply or tank.
Thats why.
But in the end it doesnt matter much.. save you maybe 1-2 minutes tops. |

CanI haveyourstuff
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:36:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:TFI will SMOKE a RNI in damsel. No travel required.
cool... but totally unneeded.
lvl4 missions aint something to do while being up on your toes... it will burn everyone out so fast that they just let their account die and unsub. There are exceptions ofcourse some farm them day to day and count every second...
I've tryed almost every ship in eve (maybe not some low tier amarr lazor boats) and in general RNI or Golem are just the best at everything.
Yes you wont get that -1 minute from some mission, not even -3 at another but missioning is just easy and almost afk mode in good tanking ship.
You just dont have to deal and micromanage with everything.
and on that note imo golem does missions faster than any other ship.. less messing around with hardeners, less ammo switching.. less everything, just enter site - press F1 - leave. |
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